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Poster: MrMovie Date: Jul 14, 2005 8:13am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: MPEG2 FILE SIZES & The Green Monster

These MPEG-2 File sizes are ridiculous! I have an extremely high speed connection with 3.7GB downstream and it still takes up to 24 hours for some of these insane MPEG2 renderings. Who EVER is doing this, have a heart will ya, and re-render the MPEG2s at a something "normal." I really feel sorry for the poor guy in rural USA with a dial-up connection attemtping to DL an MPEG2 file from here..his great,great,great grandchild MIGHT be around when the DL finishes. To make matters worse, Every last one of the MPEG1 files are all at that insane 320x240 with that hideous green background which causes pixels when attempting to view or otherwise use. Oh, and here's a new one: Sex Madness & Reefer Madness download the MPEG2 file WITH NO SOUND or some sound that can't be read by the most common playback units. When attempting to Burn A DVD of these two films after DL (which took 29 hours for each!) Three different programs said "File Contains No Sound" How sweet! 8pm Wednesday night I started Downloading the ONE-HOUR SIX MINUTE FEATURE "Forgotton Village" It's now THURSDAY at 6:30pm and it still has almost 3 hours to go! Gezzz!! Change those MPEG2s and/or FIX the MPEG1s. How hard a task can that be? Has anyone else noticed the MPEG2 files sizes on the serials!? 23 minutes and its a 3.1 GIG file. Obviously, somebody really doesn't want anyone to have these, they are just out here taking up space.

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Poster: Yellow_Pages Date: Jul 14, 2005 12:42pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: MPEG2 FILE SIZES & The Green Monster

Still you never addressed what download manger you are using or are you using your browser to do the downloads with. The advantage of having a download manager is simple in that it multithreads the download into almost double the speed to make more efficient use of download bandwith. As far as the Pinnacle Studio not rendering check to see if all the plugins are installed as some versions require additional codecs to render the files into dvd's.

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Poster: MrMovie Date: Jul 14, 2005 2:00pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: MPEG2 FILE SIZES & The Green Monster

Okay... I have all the plug-in's "active" on the Studio. As for downlaods, I'm using the browser and NOT a DL Manager. Where do I get one of those? Also would it be too much to ask if the audio codec was listed with the features so we knew advance what we're dealing with?

This post was modified by MrMovie on 2005-07-14 21:00:12

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Poster: me#1 Date: Jul 14, 2005 6:08pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: MPEG2 FILE SIZES & The Green Monster

Try using
firefox, http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ flashgot, http://www.flashgot.net
and free download manager, http://www.freedownloadmanager.org/download.htm
all together.
I have gotten 300+ kbps each, while downloading multiple movies at the same time.


This post was modified by me#1 on 2005-07-15 01:08:02

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Poster: MrMovie Date: Jul 14, 2005 9:41pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: MPEG2 FILE SIZES & The Green Monster

Thanks To All Of You For YOur Input And Help. Your information and guidance has been most useful and very appreciated.

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Poster: coolmccool Date: Oct 31, 2005 9:00pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: MPEG2 FILE SIZES & The Green Monster

I've been using Firefox and have been a tad disapointed. The MPEG2 of Hitchcock's The Man Who Knew Too Much was taking almost 24hrs on an UK NTL Cable 2Mb connection.

And unfortunately, my missus paused the download 75% way through, and I couldn't get it going again.

Which is the best download manager for pausing / restarting downloads ?

Or do I need to use a European / UK mirror ?

I think the Archive is a WONDERFUL idea, btw. But I am a fan of BitTorrent - surely it would be a good idee to distribute your content more efficiently than straight downloads ?

Thanks, in any case.

CoolMcCool

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: Oct 31, 2005 9:13pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: MPEG2 FILE SIZES & The Green Monster

Bittorrent turns out to be less efficient for most items here since there is not a high density of people downloading any given item at one time.

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Poster: al manley Date: Jul 14, 2005 2:45pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: MPEG2 FILE SIZES & The Green Monster

I have slow ADSL, with a promised Incoming speed of 1536 kbps. I use ReGet download manager (you can get a trial copy fully functional at http://reget.com) and manage to download a 1 GB MPEG2 file in one to two hours. What the DL manager does, is actualy download the file in several sections, simultaneously. This speeds up most downloads tremendously. Asfor the program you use to render the moving images, I have the full Disny suite, as well as everything that Pixar makes. And I still use WinAmp for convience. With those stuborn cases, where a little tweaking needs to be done, you will always run into the need of another Codec, or a diferent renderer that has the ability to adjust in certain areas. So don't put all your eggs in one basket. I highly comend Archive.org for the format choices that they have made. I only hope that monetary shortcomings don't force them to cut back in the future.So, I recomend that you get yourself a good download manager such as ReGet or GetRight. They give you a long time to try them, and I think you will be pleased with the results. I too can rember the old days of 1200 k buletinboard downloads, that took 24 hours or more. Hey, with your' connection speed, you could take advantage of the realtime streaming video option that Archive.org offers for All their flics. And let me advise that you get the Gspot Information Appliance from gspot.headbands.com. It is one of Many helpful programs that will tell you all about your Video files, what Codec is needed, Video and Audio and a veritable goldmine of other helpful info. It has saved me many times! I hope this will be of some help to you. Remember, We all must daily learn more about the technology we use, if we intend to sucesfully use it at all! We're All experts on what we know, and Novices on what we don't. I hope I have have helped you, and can count on you for help also.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffakb Date: Jul 14, 2005 10:16am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: MPEG2 FILE SIZES & The Green Monster

I also have a high speed connection, and though it takes a long time to download MPEG2 files it doesn't take as long as you are describing. How fast is your connection? What speed is your download software reporting? Is that speed constant or does it vary?

Every last one of the MPEG1 files are all at that insane 320x240 with that hideous green background which causes pixels when attempting to view or otherwise use.

I'm not sure what you mean by "hideous green background". What software are you using to view these files? Can you point specifically to an MPEG1 file that you are seeing this with?

What format would you like to see provided? I can imagine a higher bitrate mp4 being provided (perhaps also the encoding settings could be tweaked a bit). I doubt the Archive would (or should) transcode to any of the proprietary formats (wmv, qt, real).

For most of the feature films the MPEG2 file is taken right off the DVD with no reencoding, it is the best available copy, thus best suited for archiving. I don't think that will change, but a better lower bitrate lower quality copy probably could be made.

On the no sound problem, have you tried using VLC? I'm guessing you're preferred player doesn't have an ac3 decoder. Download VLC at videolan.org.

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Poster: MrMovie Date: Jul 14, 2005 11:21am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: MPEG2 FILE SIZES & The Green Monster

okay... I have the VCL player and "yes" they played on that. They did not play on nor render on the Pinnacle Studio 9.4.3.70 which (in the event you don't know) DISNEY STUDIOS uses this program so it is not sub-par consumer product. Most "Joe-Average" wouldn't know how to work two-thirds of what is on this program. My DL is approximately 89.4kbps and has topped out even higher than that. What I would like to see is this: A more usable MPEG-2 File Size and/or the MPEG-1s at 352x240 so that it can be rendered and properly read by programs that know how to read a proper 352x240 MPEG-1 file. The Green Stuff is only on the MPEG-1 files. Try Downloading anyone of them even a Superman Cartoon. Next put that into a rendering program and look at the viewing window. What do you see?
I have three different programs and they all show that GREEN SCREEN. When you hit play, it pixels and making anykind of a render from that is impossible. Finally, it would be a BIG HELP if you would denote the Audio Structure of the film so that if anyone want's to do more than just watch it, they know in advance of doing a 29 hour download if the sound is MPEG-Layer3 or whatever it is.

This post was modified by MrMovie on 2005-07-14 18:21:29